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Nice! 1:32 But the school board sent the money back! 1:34 They said that if they took it, 1:36 students would have to watch 1:38 pro-LGBTQ videos, 1:40 which wasn't true. 1:41 'It Gets Better' does focus on helping 1:43 LGBTQ kids, but the room 1:45 would've been open to anyone 1:46 and the grant had no requirements 1:47 about watching anything, 1:48 but the board wouldn't listen. 1:51 The board discussed this 1:52 for longer than they discussed 1:54 the literal closure 1:55 of two entire schools in their district! 1:58 And that stunned me. 1:59 A school board rejected $10,000 of free money, 2:02 and talked about something 2:03 that isn't true for so long, 2:05 it impaired their ability to work?! 2:07 So what happened here? 2:08 Why couldn't they listen? 2:10 This polarisation is exactly 2:13 what Butler's interested in. 2:14 I'll take you through their technical philosophy, 2:17 although really, 2:18 I wish I could just show you, 2:19 because I'm somebody whose mind 2:21 has definitely changed on these issues, 2:24 but it's not like I can just go back in time, 2:26 and talk to my past-self! 2:30 [bell dinging] 2:40 - Oh my God, 2:42 these madeleines are amazing! 2:48 So, you're surprised? 2:49 - Yeah. 2:50 - Fair, but how surprised are you really? 2:58 [Abigail laughing] 3:01 - You look like mum. 3:02 - Right?! 3:03 - You sound different. 3:04 - Seattle Voice Lab, look 'em up. 3:08 [Deep voice] I can turn it on and off whenever I want. 3:10 [Abigail laughing] 3:12 Oh my God, 3:13 so, in about three years, 3:14 we have to move flats, 3:15 and the internet contract is in your name 3:17 so when I call to cancel it 3:19 they won't talk to me, 3:20 and I have to say, 3:21 "Hang on a minute, I'll go get him." 3:23 and do your voice down the phone! 3:28 - How do mum and dad take it? 3:30 - Really well actually! 3:32 There's this nice moment 3:33 in about three years when you 3:34 and dad are gonna be out 3:35 (actually, I think you're gone by this point, it's just me and him) 3:38 and we bump into some old family friends 3:39 and they're super awkward about it 3:40 and Dad's just like, 3:41 "Pfft, whatever. Their problem." 3:42 - He's not embarrassed? 3:47 - Why would he be embarrassed? 3:49 - Were you dressed like this? 3:52 - I dress however I want. 3:55 Dude, that's the whole point! 3:57 The whole thing is so liberating, 4:00 seriously, you are gonna love it. 4:02 Just the freedom to be who you wanna be. 4:03 - I don't wanna be like you. 4:08 - Why not? 4:11 Let's talk about femboys! 4:13 I began at the beginning, 4:15 Butler's 1988 paper, 4:18 'Performative Acts & Gender Constitution', 4:20 one of the first things they ever wrote. 4:23 And right up top, 4:24 we should acknowledge 4:25 Butler's academic writing 4:26 can sometimes be pretty difficult, 4:28 and that's fair enough, 4:29 gender is a difficult subject: mine took me two attempts. 4:33 What made it click for me 4:35 is it reminded me of a friend, 4:38 who we'll call... 'F'. 4:41 'F' is very cool, 4:43 clever, and funny, 4:45 and unpretentious, 4:46 the kind of person who turns up 4:47 to a fancy restaurant wearing a trucker hat. 4:50 'F' is also a femboy. 4:52 Femboys take on attributes 4:54 that are typically considered feminine, 4:56 but they are not themselves women, usually. 4:59 Femboy is also a genre of online content, 5:02 'F' dresses up like a girl, 5:04 and streams themself playing video games. 5:06 When I first met 'F', 5:08 I wondered, 5:09 "Is 'femboy' a gender?" 5:13 Well, it's less a thing that you are, 5:15 and more a thing that you do, 5:18 like a job. 5:19 And interestingly, 5:20 because the femboy aesthetic 5:22 is so shaped by online content, 5:24 to do 'femboy' in a way 5:26 that other people will recognise 5:28 requires you to adopt certain behaviours 5:30 and stylised practices 5:32 whose meaning is not determined by you. 5:35 You can't choose what the trends are, 5:38 what styles of makeup 5:39 or dress signal 'femboy', 5:42 you've gotta learn them 5:43 and do them 5:44 if you wanna be seen that way, 5:46 and 'F' works pretty hard at that. 5:48 If you're very clever, 5:49 you'll already have guessed 5:51 where this is going. 5:52 According to Butler, 5:54 all gender works that way! 5:58 In this paper, 5:59 they say that 5:59 gender is a thing we do 6:01 through repeated stylised acts. 6:05 Not a property, 6:06 but an embodied event. 6:09 Those acts get their meaning from a social world 6:12 so, in a way 6:13 gender is also a thing that is done to us. 6:16 [Voice of F1NN5TER] "Gender is in no way 6:18 a stable identity or locus of agency 6:20 from which various acts proceed. 6:22 Rather, it's an identity 6:24 tenuously constituted in time, 6:26 an identity instituted 6:28 through a stylised repetition of acts. 6:31 Further, gender is instituted 6:32 through a stylisation of the body, 6:34 and hence must be understood 6:35 as the mundane way 6:37 in which bodily gestures, 6:38 movements, and enactments of various kinds 6:40 constitute the illusion 6:41 of an abiding gendered self." 6:43 - You're ridiculous! 6:44 - Says discount Tom Hiddleston?! 6:46 - Your face doesn't look like me anymore. 6:48 Did you get plastic surgery on my face?! 6:51 - Well, there's no plastic in me babes, I'm all natural! 6:53 - Artificial surgery makes you natural, does it? 6:56 - At first glance, 6:58 Butler's ideas seemed 6:59 a little strange to me, 7:00 because we often talk 7:01 as if gender is an inner truth. 7:04 For example, when people change gender 7:06 and come out 7:07 we're often said to be 'living authentically', 7:10 or 'being true to ourselves.' 7:12 Even the term 'coming out' implies 7:14 that there was an authentic self before 7:17 who was hidden. 7:17 But according to Butler 7:19 there might be no such thing. 7:22 It's not that I exist 7:24 and then I choose to perform gender 7:26 in ways that you will recognise; 7:28 I can't even form a concept 7:29 of 'I' without using gendered language 7:32 and stylised practices, 7:34 whose meaning exists prior to me. 7:37 Gender is one of the ways 7:39 that human subjects come into existence 7:42 (the technical term here is 'subjectification') 7:45 and that process happens publicly. 7:50 Gender creates the illusion 7:51 of a private self 7:52 which exists before all of that 7:54 but this is just an illusion. 7:57 If a tree falls in the forest 7:58 and nobody's around to hear it 8:00 it has no pronouns! 8:02 Herein lies the distinction 8:04 between 'performative' 8:06 and 'performance', 8:08 which are often mixed up. 8:10 When people say 'gender is a performance' 8:13 they mean that people exist first 8:15 without gender 8:16 and then they put on costumes 8:18 or makeup or wigs the way that an actor does, 8:20 but that's not what Butler is saying. 8:23 'Performative' is a technical philosophy term 8:27 for when you say something 8:28 and by saying it 8:29 you also do it. 8:31 For example, if you say 8:33 "I promise" 8:34 you say the words 8:35 and you make a promise. 8:37 If a judge says 8:38 "I sentence you" 8:39 they say it 8:41 and they do it. 8:42 When Butler says that gender is performative 8:45 they mean it that way: 8:47 you do it 8:48 and you make it so, 8:50 and indeed by doing it 8:52 you are made so. 8:55 And people have made fun of Butler for this idea: 8:57 I've seen people say, 8:58 "Oh, Judith Butler says, 9:00 'You can just choose to be any gender you want.' 9:03 Well, men could choose to be women, 9:05 and women can choose to be baboons, 9:07 and I can choose to be an attack helicopter! 9:09 Ha-ha, how silly!" 9:11 But when I actually read their work, 9:13 I realised that's not what they're saying at all. 9:16 Our very concept of ourselves 9:19 as gendered subjects 9:20 requires a social world: 9:22 we depend on others for the recognition we need, 9:25 to become gendered subjects. 9:27 We can still make some choices, 9:29 wear whatever clothes or makeup you like, 9:32 but the meaning of those things 9:34 is not within our sole control. 9:37 People have been making jokes 9:38 like that about Butler for decades, 9:41 even though they addressed 9:42 this misunderstanding in their first paper 9:46 in the first paragraph! 9:49 Almost like the people mocking them 9:52 aren't really listening... 9:58 Hmm. 9:59 - [Robin - JuicyGirlTV] There is no volitional subject 10:01 behind the mime who decides as it were 10:04 which gender it will be today, 10:06 on the contrary, 10:08 the very possibility 10:09 of becoming a viable subject, 10:11 requires that a certain gender mime 10:13 be already underway. 10:15 - I didn't come back here to argue with you, 10:16 I'm trying to help. 10:17 - I don't believe it, 10:18 it's a trick. 10:19 - You were born in Newcastle. 10:21 Your favourite food is Chinese. 10:22 Your first crush was named 'Flossie'. 10:24 - No, no. You could have tortured me, 10:26 and gotten that information. 10:27 - What?! 10:28 - Well, I don't know, 10:29 you could have gotten it 10:30 out on me somehow in the future! 10:31 - Just listen to me, 10:32 we're the same height, 10:32 we have the same eyes! 10:33 - Your body's completely different! 10:35 - Yes! That's the point! 10:37 - Human bodies can't change that much! 10:39 - WHATDOYOUMEEEAAANHUMANBODIESCANTCHANGE - EVEN IF YOU ARE, EVEN IF YOU ARE! 10:42 - Let's talk about Kristen Stewart! 10:44 Next on my reading list 10:45 was Butler's famous 1990 book 10:48 'Gender Trouble', 10:49 but it's pretty tough 10:50 and technical 10:50 so we could use a bit of a run-up. 10:52 We can actually start with this. 10:56 In March 2024 10:57 actor Kristen Stewart 10:58 appeared on the cover of Rolling Stone looking... 11:01 [silent lesbian noises] 11:04 In the interview 11:05 Stewart said- 11:07 - [Morgana Ignis] "I wanna do the gayest f*****g 11:09 thing you've ever seen in your life. 11:12 If I could grow a little mustache, 11:14 if I could grow a f*****g happy trail 11:18 and unbutton my pants, I would." 11:22 - Later, at the Berlin Film Festival, 11:24 she added- 11:25 - [Morgana Ignis] "The existence of a female body 11:27 thrusting any type of sexuality at you 11:29 that's not designed for, 11:31 or desired by exclusively cis straight males, 11:34 is something people are not super comfy with, 11:37 and so, I'm really happy with it, 11:39 I had a great time!" 11:41 - A lot of people think 11:42 that there's a difference between sex 11:44 and gender. 11:46 Sex is supposed to be the physical thing: 11:49 some combination of genes 11:50 or genitals or gametes 11:51 or maybe it's something in your brain 11:53 but it's there in the world 11:55 and gender is just what we do with it, 11:57 or at least that's how the story goes. 12:01 It might be helpful 12:02 to know something of the history 12:04 of that idea. 12:05 For millennia, male-dominated societies 12:08 exploited women 12:09 and justified it by claiming that 12:11 we are naturally inferior. 12:13 From Greek 12:13 and Roman philosophers saying that 12:15 women can't be educated 12:16 to Victorian doctors saying 12:18 that we are too emotional to vote, 12:19 to today, some people still say 12:21 women are by nature 12:23 not equipped to live as equal members of society. 12:26 "Oh, she could never lead a nation. 12:28 What if she got her period, 12:30 and started a war?" 12:32 Misogyny has consistently 12:33 justified itself by appealing to 'facts' 12:36 about our bodies 12:37 that are simply made up. 12:39 If you'd like to know more 12:40 about the history of this practice, 12:41 then I really recommend 12:44 'The Once & Future Sex' 12:46 by historian Eleanor Janega. 12:48 Into this context 12:49 comes French philosopher 12:50 Simone de Beauvoir, 12:52 whose landmark book 'The Second Sex' 12:54 comes out in 1949 12:56 and opens with this sentence - 12:58 - [SpacedPlum] "One is not born, 12:59 but rather becomes a woman." 13:02 - de Beauvoir challenges this history, 13:04 saying that whilst there are facts 13:06 about female biology 13:08 male-dominated society 13:09 also makes a lot of stuff up, 13:11 and claims that the stuff it makes up is facts. 13:14 The technical term here is 'naturalisation', 13:17 making something appear natural. 13:19 For example, women are denied the vote? 13:22 Well, it's not 'cause we live 13:23 in an unequal society; 13:24 it's 'cause the female brain 13:26 just can't handle it, 13:26 'cause of uh, biology. 13:30 So, she says, 13:31 one is born female, 13:34 but 'woman' is a socially constructed 13:36 ideal of subordination 13:38 that we are encouraged to embrace 13:40 and punished for defying. 13:42 And then in the 1980s 13:45 along come French philosophers 13:46 Monique Wittig 13:47 and Michel Foucault who say 13:49 this sex versus gender distinction 13:51 is just another layer of control. 13:56 de Beauvoir thinks that 'woman' 13:58 is an oppressive social construct 14:00 but 'female' somehow isn't? 14:04 Human beings are 99.9% identical: 14:06 who does it serve to split hairs 14:08 about the remaining 0.1%? 14:10 Defining one half of the human species 14:12 in terms of our capacity to carry babies 14:14 and be fertile 14:15 and straight 14:16 and thereby participate in systems of property 14:18 and inheritance 14:20 overwhelmingly controlled by men - 14:22 does that sound like a natural distinction? 14:26 Or does it sound like a political one? 14:28 Wittig actually says that 14:29 women should reject womanhood entirely 14:32 by becoming lesbians. 14:34 Rejecting the patriarchal categories 14:36 of both 'woman' 14:37 and 'female'." 14:38 Categories which she says 14:39 only makes sense inside the heterosexual matrix. 14:44 [Lily Alexandre] Do not try 14:45 and change sex, 14:46 that's impossible. 14:49 Instead, only try to realise the truth. 14:52 - [Devon] What truth? 14:54 - [Lily Alexandre] There is no sex. 14:56 We have been compelled in our bodies, 14:57 and in our minds 14:58 to correspond feature-by-feature 15:00 with the idea of nature 15:01 that has been established for us. 15:03 Distorted to such an extent 15:05 that our deformed body 15:06 is what they call 'natural', 15:08 what is supposed to exist 15:09 as such before oppression. 15:11 Distorted to such an extent 15:13 that in the end 15:14 oppression seems to be a consequence 15:15 of this nature within ourselves. 15:18 By admitting that there is a natural division 15:20 between women 15:21 and men, we naturalise history, 15:23 not only do we naturalise history, 15:25 but also consequently, 15:26 we naturalise the social phenomena 15:28 which express our oppression, 15:30 making change impossible. 15:32 Lesbian is the only concept I know of 15:34 which is beyond the categories of sex, 15:36 women, and man, 15:38 because the designated subject, 15:39 'lesbian', is not a woman, 15:41 either economically 15:42 or politically 15:43 or ideologically. 15:45 For what makes a woman 15:46 is a specific social relation to a man, 15:49 a relation that we have 15:50 previously called 'servitude', 15:52 a relation which implies personal 15:53 and physical obligation, 15:55 as well as economic obligation, 15:57 forced residence, 15:57 domestic corvee, 15:58 conjugal duties, 15:59 unlimited production of children, 16:00 et cetera. 16:01 A relation which lesbians escape 16:03 by refusing to become or stay heterosexual." 16:07 - I'm not sure that I personally agree 16:08 with everything Wittig says, 16:10 but it's a provocative thought 16:11 worth listening to, 16:12 and in 'Gender Trouble', 16:14 Butler thinks so too. 16:16 They say 16:17 we should question the idea that sex 16:19 is a natural category. 16:21 That might sound very out there, 16:23 but just listen for a moment. 16:25 Once upon a time, 16:26 people believed that race 16:28 was a natural category: 16:29 they wrote scientific papers about it 16:31 and measured peoples' skulls 16:33 and took blood samples 16:34 and they believed that it was real. 16:36 Nowadays we know that race 16:38 is a political grouping that was naturalised, 16:40 made to look natural, 16:42 in large part 16:43 to justify slavery. 16:45 And we also know that sex was a big part of that: 16:47 Black women 16:48 and white women 16:49 were categorised very differently. 16:51 So, are you certain that the distinction 16:55 between male 16:55 and female is as secure as you've been told? 17:01 Who told you that? 17:04 [Deep Voice] Why did they tell you it? 17:09 [Normal voice] And who benefits from you continuing to believe it? 17:12 [Devon] You think that's pussy you're eating now? 17:13 - This is the artistic space 17:16 that Kristen Stewart's photoshoot is playing in: 17:19 the piece 17:20 and Stewart's comments engage 17:21 in what Butler calls 'resignification', 17:25 giving a new meaning to something, 17:28 in this case 17:28 Stewart's body. 17:30 The question it poses is, 17:32 "What if this is also female? 17:36 What does that tell us about the sense, 17:39 or non-sense of gendered categories?" 17:42 But, if sex isn't real 17:46 then why did I go through all the trouble 17:50 of changing mine?! 17:52 It's a blunt question 17:53 but it's not an unfair one. 17:56 So, when I finished 'Gender Trouble', 17:57 I also read this, 18:00 'Whipping Girl' by Julia Serano. 18:02 Serano is a biologist, 18:04 she believes in what she calls 'subconscious sex', 18:07 something in the brain that expects the body 18:11 to be a certain way, 18:12 she thinks this would explain the existence 18:14 of people like me, 18:15 and also her, 18:16 whose gender just feels right. 18:21 It's an interesting idea 18:22 and I think it gets to the heart 18:23 of an intuition a lot of us have to go, 18:25 Well look... 18:28 Physical differences are there, 18:30 we can see them! 18:32 Some human beings can get pregnant, 18:33 and others can't! 18:35 Is Butler really saying 18:36 that all of that isn't real? 18:37 But then, I read the book again, 18:40 and it turns out, 18:41 that's also a misunderstanding, 18:44 Butler's not saying that the physical world 18:46 isn't there, or even that it's unknowable; 18:49 they're just saying that whatever facts 18:50 there might be about "biological sex" 18:53 we can only learn them, 18:55 and talk about them through gender. 18:59 To say the sentence, 19:00 "My brain expects my body to be female," 19:03 is to draw on a particular understanding 19:05 of the word 'female'. 19:07 (and while we're at it, 19:07 a particular understanding 19:08 of the meaning of the words 'my' 19:09 and 'body') that get their meaning 19:12 from a social world. 19:14 I've seen some more recent philosophers 19:16 use the term 'sex/gender', 19:18 and even 'sex/gender/race', 19:21 and now I understand why: 19:23 we can't really think about 19:24 those things separately! 19:25 It's not that there's sex, 19:26 the biological reality, 19:28 and then there's gender on top of it, 19:30 it's all gender. 19:32 - [Devon] It's all gender? 19:34 - [November Kelly] Always has been. 19:35 Physical features appear 19:36 to be in some sense of there, 19:37 on the far side of language, 19:39 unmarked by a social system. 19:42 It is unclear however, 19:43 that these features could be named 19:44 in a way that would not reproduce 19:45 the reductive operation for categories of sex. 19:48 In other words, 19:49 'sex' imposes an artificial unity 19:52 on an otherwise discontinuous set of attributes, 19:55 as both discursive 19:56 and perceptual, 19:57 sex denotes a historically contingent 20:00 epistemic regime, 20:01 a language that forms perception, 20:04 by forcibly shaping the interrelationships 20:06 through which physical bodies are perceived. 20:08 The existence 20:09 and facticity of the material 20:11 or natural dimensions of the body are not denied, 20:13 but reconceived as distinct from the process 20:15 by which the body comes to bear cultural meanings. 20:18 If gender is the cultural significance 20:20 that the sexed body assumes, 20:22 and if that significance is co-determined 20:24 through various acts, 20:25 and their cultural perception, 20:27 then it would appear that from within 20:28 the terms of culture, 20:29 it is not possible to know sex 20:32 as distinct from gender." 20:33 - And then, I turned on the news. 20:37 [Rishi Sunak] Biological sex really matters. 20:39 [Piers Morgan] I'm glad you've said what a woman is, 20:40 because a lot of are people thinking, 20:41 "Why can't we say what it is anymore?" 20:42 [Kier Starmer] I start with biology. Biology, and obviously, 20:47 there's a distinction between sex and gender. 20:49 [Miriam Cates] You can't change sex, okay? That is a biological fact. 20:52 [Rishi Sunak] And we shouldn't get bullied 20:53 into believing that people can be 20:55 any sex they want to be, 20:57 they can't. 20:57 [Lady TikTok Robot Voice] A woman is a human being 20:59 who belongs to the sex class 21:01 that produces large gametes. 21:05 [Man TikTok Robot Voice] May I suggest also posting 21:06 interesting and positive content on other matters? 21:09 - I live in England 21:11 where a lot of people are talking 21:12 about sex at the moment. 21:14 Some say that sex is a fixed-point 21:18 that cannot be changed 21:19 or resignified 21:21 or questioned 21:22 whereas gender is just a nebulous feeling, 21:25 or a "contested belief." 21:28 I thought all that feminist philosophy 21:30 was pretty interesting, 21:32 but it seems some people 21:34 don't want to listen. 21:40 - Human bodies can't change that much! 21:42 - WHATDOYOUMEEEANHUMANBODIESCANTCHANGE - EVEN IF YOU ARE, EVEN IF YOU ARE 21:44 Even if you are me, right? 21:47 Let's just say you are 21:48 for the sake of the argument, right? 21:49 You say you're happy, 21:51 but what about the version of us 21:52 from 20/30/40 years into the far future? 21:55 What if they walk in now 21:56 and say, "You made a mistake!" 21:57 - Then I made the mistake you wanted to make! 21:59 - Better the devil you know than the devil you don't. 22:01 - The gates of hell are locked from the inside! 22:03 - What makes me suspicious, right? 22:05 Is you're coming in here going, 22:06 "Ooh, everything's wonderful!" Right? 22:08 Trying to convince me, 22:09 but you don't mention any downsides. 22:11 - Of course there's downsides! 22:13 - Well, go on then! 22:15 - Street harassment. 22:19 Men are gonna shout at you in the street. 22:22 Men push into you, 22:23 and interrupt you. 22:25 - And? 22:26 - And it's scary sometimes, 22:29 being a woman. 22:34 There's this girl called Sarah Everard, 22:36 she's gonna get murdered in 2021 22:39 by a police officer, 22:41 it's a big thing, 22:42 it's on all the news. 22:44 And they have a vigil for her in London, 22:45 women come from all over the country, 22:48 and the police 22:49 beat and arrest the women at the vigil, 22:53 and you're gonna see that 22:54 and you're gonna feel scared 22:55 'cause it's like, 22:57 wow, this is how they treat us. 23:01 - Were you there? 23:05 - No. 23:08 I didn't feel entitled to. 23:12 - Good. 23:14 The body we have is threatening, 23:16 it wouldn't be appropriate 23:17 for us to be at their event 23:18 about violence against women. 23:20 - We're not violent. 23:22 We're tall, but so are giraffes. 23:28 Bodies are just bodies. 23:32 I wish I had been there, 23:35 we need all the allies we can get. 23:38 I tell you this, 23:39 you're gonna have to go through 23:40 so much bulls__t 23:41 just to get healthcare 23:43 and all of that comes from this place 23:45 of being like, 23:46 "Oh, everybody needs to fit the strict definition, 23:48 everyone has to be in a little box." 23:49 F__k that! 23:51 I'll do what I want 23:52 and I'll help who I can. 23:55 Let's talk about feminism. 23:57 If there is no natural category of sex 24:00 then how can we argue for women's rights? 24:04 That's a question some people are asking, 24:05 and I'll admit 24:06 I was curious. 24:07 I've seen some say that Butler is "erasing women," 24:10 and that in order to protect us 24:12 from things like discrimination 24:13 and assault 24:14 the law needs a strict definition of woman 24:17 grounded in facts about "biological sex." 24:21 Thing is, I happen to know 24:22 just off my own bat 24:23 that that's actually incorrect. 24:25 For example, suppose an employer 24:27 denies a job to a candidate named 'Hilary' 24:30 because they think, 24:30 "Oh, women - 24:31 women be shopping 24:32 women are unreliable employees 24:34 application denied." 24:36 Only it turns out Hilary 24:37 is Hilary with one 'L', 24:38 the candidate is a man. 24:40 In that case, 24:41 the employer can still be guilty 24:42 of sexual discrimination 24:43 even though their definition 24:44 of what a woman is 24:45 is false 24:46 and didn't even apply. 24:48 The same principle also goes 24:49 in crimes like assault: 24:51 if a straight person gets attacked 24:53 coming out of a gay club 24:54 that can still be a homophobic hate crime 24:57 if the suspect believes that they're gay 24:59 and attacks them for that reason. 25:02 What matters in law 25:03 is the suspect's actions 25:04 and motivations, 25:05 not whether the victim meets 25:06 a particular definition. 25:07 Even though this is a matter of settled law, 25:11 some people still insist 25:13 that a strict definition is required, 25:17 almost like those people aren't listening. 25:20 [sound of creeping madness] 25:23 But anyway, wouldn't it still be useful 25:26 to have some definition of 'woman'? 25:29 Even if we all know it's kind of vague 25:31 and loose, 25:32 could it be useful as a political standard 25:34 to rally around? 25:35 I read Butler's 1991 paper, 25:38 'Imitation and Gender Subordination', 25:40 which is partly about this definition question. 25:43 They say that defining womanhood has been 25:47 and still is a key strategy of patriarchy, 25:50 that's what de Beauvoir 25:51 was writing about in the '40s. 25:53 Trying to set an exact definition 25:55 is always going to be an exclusionary project, 25:59 whereas a certain amount of gray area 26:01 would be more inclusive. 26:03 Indeed, they say that any category 26:05 like gay, lesbian, 26:07 trans (femboy?) 26:09 imposes limits 26:11 and trying to make everybody fit 26:13 one specific box 26:14 as if they must have some inner self 26:17 that corresponds to one of them 26:19 is just a bad idea. 26:20 And I understood 26:21 where Butler was coming from there: 26:23 in Britain, trans people are often expected 26:27 to tell doctors a certain story about our lives. 26:30 We're supposed to say, 26:32 "Oh, ever since I was a child, 26:33 I called myself 'Wendy', 26:34 and wore my mother's dresses." 26:36 And if your life doesn't fit that narrative 26:38 it can be very hard to get medical care! 26:41 The concept of an authentic inner-self 26:44 that needs to be discovered 26:46 and verified 26:47 and checked 26:48 and meet somebody else's definition 26:51 is used against us. 26:52 - [Alexander Avila] "Identity categories 26:54 tend to be instruments of regulatory regimes, 26:57 whether as the normalising categories 26:59 of oppressive structures 27:01 or as the rallying points 27:03 for a liberatory contestation 27:04 of that very oppression. 27:06 That is not to say that I will not appear 27:08 at political occasions 27:10 under the sign of 'lesbian', 27:12 but that I would like to have itign 27:13 permanently unclear 27:15 what precisely that sign signifies. 27:18 Which version of lesbian or gay 27:20 ought to be rendered visible? 27:21 And which internal exclusions 27:23 will that rendering visible institute? 27:26 Can the visibility of identity 27:27 suffice as a political strategy, 27:30 or can it only be the starting point 27:32 for a strategic intervention, 27:34 which calls for a transformation of policy? 27:37 Is it not a sign of despair 27:39 over public politics 27:40 when identity becomes it's own policy? 27:43 Bringing with it 27:44 those who would police it 27:45 from various sides?" 27:47 - Don't know what else to tell you, man. 27:49 Change is difficult, 27:51 but it is possible. 27:53 - This is gonna f__k up our career. 27:55 - On the contrary. 27:57 - Well, it's gonna f__k up our love life. 28:00 - On the contrary! 28:02 - Well look, as far as anyone knows right now, 28:06 I'm a cishet white guy, right? 28:09 I'm top of the pile! 28:12 Surely it would be easier to not change? 28:14 - Oh yeah. 28:15 Way easier. 28:17 If you wanna be depressed 28:18 every day of your life 28:19 and kill yourself at 35! 28:20 - You know what I mean. 28:22 Politically, things aren't great in my time, 28:26 I assume in the future, 28:27 they do not vastly improve? 28:29 - Let's talk about 9/11 and dicks. 28:32 Oh, this is where things get silly, 28:34 and then they get very not-silly. 28:35 A penis is an organ of the human body, 28:39 it has nerves 28:40 and blood vessels 28:41 and skin 28:41 and so on. 28:42 It's primary function is to allow 28:44 women who have one 28:45 to pee standing up 28:47 if the toilet of the train carriage that you're in 28:49 is really gross. 28:52 And it also does some other stuff. 28:54 Remember what we said earlier though, 28:55 it's not that there's the physical organ 28:57 and then a bunch of other 28:59 social-constructy stuff on top. 29:01 According to Butler 29:02 we can only know the body 29:04 through the social world of symbolic meanings. 29:07 So, that particular organ 29:09 often means power, 29:12 strength, domination 29:13 (particularly when used for penetration), 29:15 and the threat of male violence. 29:18 That bundle of cultural 29:20 and symbolic meanings 29:22 is what philosophers call the 'phallus'. 29:24 Can a woman have a penis? 29:26 This question was a fad 29:27 in British media a year or two ago, 29:29 journalists kept ambushing politicians with it 29:31 and watching them struggle, 29:32 but really the answer's quite simple. 29:34 In Britain, you can change your legal sex 29:36 without surgery 29:38 because international human rights law 29:40 recognises it's probably morally wrong 29:42 to make a certain group of people 29:44 undergo expensive, 29:44 difficult, potentially risky, 29:46 invasive medical procedures 29:47 that they may not want 29:48 in order to do things like get married. 29:50 So, if you are assigned male at birth 29:53 you can change your legal sex in Britain 29:55 and become a woman without surgery. 29:58 It's not an easy process! 29:59 But surgery isn't mandatory. 30:03 [Obama voice] Uhhh if you like your dick, you can keep it. 30:05 Beyond the legal situation though, 30:07 if the person assigned male 30:09 takes feminising hormones 30:10 then their body will change, 30:12 and that includes their genitals, 30:13 which can change a lot more than you might think. 30:15 In some cases 30:16 it essentially becomes a large clitoris 30:18 incapable of erection or penetration, 30:21 and whether you wanna call that 30:21 a 'female penis' or a 'feminine penis', 30:24 or whether you think 30:25 there's not much distinction there, 30:26 legally and medically 30:28 the facts are in. 30:30 Can a woman have a penis? Yeah. 30:32 And yet, people who haven't experienced 30:36 all that for themselves 30:38 often don't listen to those who have. 30:43 Maybe you were giggling 30:44 when I told you all of that stuff! 30:45 The idea of a female penis is so unimaginable 30:48 that it's like a punchline, right? 30:51 Despite the fact that it is just a normal thing 30:53 that some people have. 30:55 It appears funny 30:56 and unexpected; 30:58 the idea of resignifying that, 31:01 using it differently 31:02 but not wrongly, 31:03 not powerful, 31:04 not for penetration, 31:05 not even male, 31:07 appears to be almost a contradiction 31:10 because that bundle of cultural 31:13 and symbolic meanings has been naturalised, 31:16 made to seem natural. 31:20 And this is a very common mistake, 31:23 we might even call it a 'fallacy'. 31:26 [rimshot] 31:27 All of this is deeply funny, 31:30 until the second it affects government policy. 31:35 In February of 2023 31:36 British Justice Secretary Dominic Raab 31:38 announced that from now on 31:39 women who have "male genitalia" 31:42 who are arrested 31:43 will be sent to a men's prison 31:44 regardless of what we look like, 31:46 regardless of whether we have 31:47 legally changed sex, 31:49 and regardless of what we are charged with. 31:51 If for example, 31:53 I was arrested at a protest, 31:55 if I was wrongfully arrested for something, 31:57 I would be sent to a men's prison. 32:00 And I'm sure you can imagine, 32:01 although you may not want to, 32:03 how that might go. 32:04 There isn't really any good kind of prison 32:08 but this policy makes prison worse 32:11 for a certain section of the population 32:13 because of the way that we are born, 32:14 and in that regard 32:15 it's ethically unusual. 32:18 It's normally a principle of justice 32:20 that similar crimes 32:21 should carry similar sentences 32:22 but in my home country 32:24 the same crime might carry 32:26 a much harsher prison sentence 32:28 if you're a trans woman. 32:29 This discrimination is justified by politicians 32:32 by appealing to the supposed threat 32:34 that penises carry, 32:36 but remember 32:38 it's regardless of our crime 32:40 or what our particular bodies are capable of, 32:44 and that's quite philosophically interesting. 32:46 They say that we are a threat 32:48 but they are not listening 32:51 to any actual facts about us. 32:53 Since that 2023 announcement 32:55 I'd been trying to understand 32:57 and listen to the justice secretary's perspective, 33:00 and work my way through the fear. 33:02 So, the next item on my reading list 33:04 was Butler's 2003 volume 'Precarious Life'. 33:08 They write about 9/11 33:10 and the war on terror, 33:12 in particular the people who were detained 33:14 indefinitely in Guantanamo Bay 33:16 by the US government - 33:18 'terror suspects' 33:20 and 'suspects' is a key-word there 33:22 because many of those imprisoned 33:23 were never given a trial, 33:25 some of them were never even charged. 33:28 The government said those people 33:29 had to be imprisoned 33:30 because they were dangerous, 33:32 but not the kind of danger 33:34 that they could prove in a trial? 33:38 [Devon] The danger that these prisoners 33:39 are said to pose 33:40 is unlike dangers that might be substantiated 33:43 in a court of law 33:44 and redressed through punishment. 33:45 Establishing dangerousness 33:48 is not the same as establishing guilt. 33:50 A certain level of dangerousness 33:52 takes a human being outside the bounds of law, 33:56 and even outside the bounds 33:57 of the military tribunal itself, 33:59 makes that human into the state's possession, 34:02 infinitely detainable. 34:04 What counts as dangerous, 34:07 is what is deemed dangerous by the state, 34:10 so that once again, 34:12 the state posits what is dangerous, 34:14 and in so doing, 34:15 establishes the conditions 34:17 for it's own preemption, 34:18 and usurpation of the law." 34:20 If a person is deemed dangerous, 34:23 then it is no longer a matter of deciding 34:25 where the criminal acts occurred. 34:27 Indeed, deeming someone dangerous 34:30 is an unsubstantiated judgment 34:32 that in these cases 34:33 works to preempt determinations 34:35 for which evidence is required." 34:38 - If you're very clever 34:39 you'll already have realised 34:41 that when governments call people 34:42 'dangerous' in this way 34:44 they're using performative speech: 34:48 they say it 34:49 and they make it so. 34:51 But what's happening here 34:52 isn't subjectification, 34:55 it's 'abjectification', 34:57 creating non-subjects, 34:59 non-people, who exist outside the law 35:02 and who can therefore be treated 35:04 any way the government likes. 35:05 I mean, we don't need trials 35:06 and evidence for them 35:08 'cause they're the bad guys! 35:10 If they have their rights violated 35:11 or they die 35:12 well, you shouldn't care about that 35:14 because they were never really alive 35:16 in a way that mattered. 35:17 In fact, if you do care 35:19 about what happens to them 35:20 then that's suspicious. 35:23 You're not gonna sympathise 35:24 with the bad guys, 35:27 are you? 35:28 If you've been watching the news lately 35:30 you might be wondering, 35:32 the people of Gaza keep being killed 35:34 but Western governments aren't listening, 35:38 is that maybe an example of abjectification? 35:41 And according to Butler 35:42 the answer is yes, 35:44 they are a long-time supporter 35:46 of Palestinian rights 35:47 and have often used their position 35:48 as a public Jewish academic 35:50 to call on the Israeli government 35:51 to meet their obligations 35:53 under international human rights law. 35:55 Butler says abjectification 35:57 is a tool of government in the 21st century 36:00 that we need to watch out for. 36:02 When the powers that be 36:03 say a certain group of people 36:05 are inherently dangerous, 36:07 whether they're Muslims, 36:08 or Palestinians, 36:09 or trans people, 36:10 that's them trying to use performative speech 36:14 to make that group of people 36:15 impossible to listen to. 36:18 We become not subjects 36:20 but abjects, 36:22 a problem to be managed against our will 36:25 in the name of a public good 36:28 that does not recognise us 36:29 as part of the public. 36:31 And I'm not drawing a moral equivalence 36:33 between those three groups, 36:34 I'm just highlighting this technique of government, 36:36 making you aware of it, 36:38 because you never know when the powers that be 36:40 might decide to use it on you. 36:43 Yeah, you're right about that, 36:47 politics in the future gets weird. 36:50 - How do you mean 'weird'? 36:55 - Let's talk about JK Rowling. 36:57 [Electro music like OOOOHHH NOW WE'RE PHILOSOPHY CHUBIN BAYBEE] 37:07 We come at last to Butler's new book, 37:11 'Who's Afraid of Gender?' 37:15 In recent years 37:16 scholars have been studying 37:17 the rise of the global anti-gender movement, 37:22 a network of people including 37:23 far-right political actors, 37:25 religious fundamentalists, 37:28 and a lot of people who are neither. 37:30 Sometimes it's a literal network of politicians 37:33 and activists working together behind the scenes, 37:36 but sometimes it's more of a loose association. 37:40 They oppose women's rights, 37:41 especially abortion, 37:43 LGBTQ rights, 37:44 and they strongly oppose trans people. 37:47 There is a part of the movement 37:49 that emerged from radical feminism 37:50 and that part tends to get a lot of attention, 37:53 especially here on YouTube. 37:54 Here's three great videos if you're interested. 37:57 But the movement as a whole is mainly men 37:59 and supports policies that would harm 38:01 the vast majority of women. 38:03 Women play an important role in selling it 38:05 and helping it appear benign, 38:07 because protecting women is always good PR, 38:11 but they aren't the core. 38:13 The core is the fight against gender ideology, 38:18 but there's not much agreement 38:19 on what that actually means. 38:22 In Eastern Europe 38:23 they say that gender ideology is spread 38:25 by the UN 38:26 and the EU, 38:27 but in Italy 38:28 they say it's spread by African migrants. 38:31 In Latin America 38:32 gender ideology means feminism 38:34 but in the UK 38:35 they say it's against feminism. 38:36 In Florida they say it's gay; 38:38 in the UK they say it's homophobic. 38:40 They say that gender ideology 38:41 is the new conversion therapy, 38:43 but some anti-gender organisations 38:45 are in favour of conversion therapy. 38:47 Gender ideology is spread 38:49 by woke students with blue hair 38:51 and safe spaces, 38:52 but it's also being pushed 38:53 on innocent students by wicked professors. 38:55 Children must not be indoctrinated 38:57 into gender ideology, 38:58 and so the government must make sure 39:00 children believe the things it says about gender. 39:03 All of this is deeply confusing. 39:07 The Oxford English Dictionary 39:08 defines gender ideology as, 39:11 [Sounds of Hell] 39:14 Although gender ideology is a vague term 39:17 there are recurring themes 39:19 in how it is used. 39:21 One such theme is the idea 39:23 that gender is in some way unnatural 39:27 or artificial 39:28 or fake, a contested belief, 39:32 unlike biological sex 39:34 and family values, 39:36 which definitely are natural. 39:40 Another theme is that gender ideologues, 39:43 whoever they are, 39:44 are powerful, 39:45 commanding your obedience, 39:48 but also very sneaky, 39:49 capturing institutions behind the scenes. 39:52 And the sneakiness is important, 39:54 because it allows the movement 39:55 to claim gender ideologues are doing 39:57 all sorts of nefarious things 39:59 that they have no evidence for, 40:01 but the reason they have no evidence 40:02 is because they're so gosh darn sneaky! 40:04 Self-victimisation plays a huge role here. 40:08 Another reason there's no evidence 40:09 is because ordinary people 40:11 are being bullied into silence 40:13 by the woke genderists. 40:15 Sometimes this verges 40:17 into outright conspiracy theory. 40:19 There are people in my country, 40:21 people with serious political 40:22 and media careers, 40:23 who've claimed that our civil service 40:25 and healthcare are secretly being run 40:28 by the trans deep state! 40:30 Which frankly, 40:32 I wish that were true! 40:34 The final theme is the danger 40:36 that gender ideology apparently poses. 40:40 Whatever it is, 40:41 it's a threat to women who are "erased," 40:44 and to men who are made weak 40:46 and helpless. 40:47 To families 40:48 and to children in particular 40:49 who are confused or preyed upon. 40:52 It's a threat to the nation, 40:53 because you see 40:54 gender makes us weak to communism, 40:56 or capitalism, 40:57 or Vladimir Putin, 40:58 or Western influence, 40:59 or Islamic migrants. 41:01 It's a threat to the existence of humanity, 41:03 and the authority of God Himself. 41:07 The Vatican has actually claimed that, 41:09 no exaggeration! 41:10 Pope Francis compared gender ideology 41:13 to nuclear weapons! 41:15 It kinda just means the opposite 41:17 of how things should be, 41:20 and the way they should be 41:21 is whatever you personally want, 41:25 and that's a very effective strategy, 41:27 because it allows people 41:29 who previously might not have associated 41:30 to stand together. 41:32 The movement features conservative Catholics, 41:34 men's rights activists, 41:35 Neo-Nazis, new-age types, 41:37 centrists, liberals, 41:38 and even some feminists, 41:40 and it's good at radicalising them too. 41:43 Gender ideology seems 41:45 like such a big threat, 41:46 it can't be stopped by traditional means, 41:49 we have to get tough. 41:51 Much of the blame for starting 41:53 the anti-gender movement 41:55 belongs, I'm afraid, 41:57 to Catholics. 41:58 Since at least the 1980s 42:00 conservative Catholics both within 42:02 and without the church 42:03 have said that gender ideology 42:05 threatens the family 42:06 and God. 42:07 They use this claim as justification 42:09 for their extreme authoritarian positions 42:11 on abortion 42:12 and queerness, among other things. 42:15 It was Catholics who first started 42:17 the conspiracy theory that the UN 42:19 are secretly pushing 42:20 an anti-Christian gender agenda. 42:23 The Catholic Church has also claimed 42:26 several times in writing, 42:28 without evidence, 42:29 that gender ideology leads 42:31 to the abuse of children, 42:35 an IMAX level act of projection 42:37 that might honestly be funny, 42:39 if it weren't so insulting 42:40 to the intelligence of every human being 42:43 on planet Earth. 42:44 Religion still plays a big role 42:46 in driving anti-gender sentiment, 42:48 especially in the Americas 42:49 and Eastern Europe. 42:51 In Britain, our version is a little more secular, 42:53 but that's not the case everywhere, 42:55 it's just we don't go in for Catholicism 42:58 as much as we used to. 42:59 [Gamer horns, Greensleeves] 43:01 But, it would be unfair to lay the blame 43:03 on all Catholics, 43:05 Evangelicals are getting involved too, 43:07 and indeed, some ordinary Catholics 43:09 might be getting scaaaaaa... 43:14 I have to be careful what I say here! 43:16 I can tell you that religion also plays a role 43:20 in how the movement is funded. 43:22 The Piotr Skarga Association, 43:25 a Polish group who oppose abortion 43:27 and LGBTQ rights, 43:29 have raised millions of Euros 43:31 selling rosaries 43:32 and pictures of saints 43:33 to Catholics 'round the world via mail-order. 43:37 And legally, I can't say that's a scam! 43:42 Maybe everyone who gives them money 43:44 knows what they use it for, 43:46 maybe when a little French grandma 43:47 in Toulouse buys a calendar 43:49 with the Virgin Mary on it, 43:50 she knows full well 43:52 that her money is going to 43:53 an extreme right-wing organisation in Poland, 43:55 who are gonna send some of it 43:56 to anti-abortion groups in Brazil, 43:57 and spend the rest on luxury properties. 44:00 Grandma probably did her research, 44:03 and she'd have to 44:05 because their adverts don't mention it, 44:07 and Piotr Skarga's financial documents 44:09 were hidden from the public 44:10 until journalists broke this story in 2020. 44:12 Speaking of Catholic crimes through, 44:15 the narrative is 44:16 that gender ideology is being pushed 44:18 on the good people of the world 44:20 by shadowy elites who are pulling the strings. 44:23 And at this point in my reading, 44:24 I was thinking, 44:25 "Well, that sounds a lot like antisemitism." 44:27 And yes, there are some parts of the movement 44:30 that are explicitly antisemitic, 44:32 for example, neo-Nazis have criticized 44:35 Judith Butler for being a Jewish lesbian 44:38 who invented gender to weaken the West. 44:41 But then I read this, 44:43 'Anti-Gender Politics in The Populist Moment' 44:46 by Polish scholars Agnieszka Graff 44:47 and Elzbieta Korolczuk. 44:49 They say 44:50 not all anti-genderists are secretly antisemitic; 44:53 the reason they can look similar 44:56 is because they do similar things - 44:59 abjectify - make a certain group of people 45:03 impossible to listen to. 45:06 [Mattie Lubchansky] "Though Jews are almost never mentioned 45:07 in attacks on gender ideology, 45:09 genderists, and especially sexual minorities 45:12 are consistently Judaised 45:14 in anti-gendered discourse, 45:15 that is, described in a language 45:17 strongly reminiscent 45:18 of conspiratorial antisemitism. 45:21 The link becomes most obvious when Soros 45:23 and Butler are mentioned, 45:24 or when the term 'Cultural Marxism', 45:27 notorious for it's antisemitic subtext is employed, 45:30 like Jews 45:31 in antisemitic attacks, 45:32 sexual minorities are presented 45:34 as engaged in a secretive plot, 45:36 they are scheming, 45:38 devious, and powerful. 45:40 To this end, 45:41 the term 'homosexual lobby' 45:42 is often used, 45:43 and the link between homosexuality 45:45 and cosmopolitanism, 45:47 or rootlessness is persistently made. 45:50 Furthermore, LGBT activists are routinely 45:53 accused of sacrilege, 45:55 their very presence is said 45:56 to contaminate sacred events 45:58 and spaces, 45:59 while the rainbow flag is seen as offensive 46:01 to religious sensibilities, 46:02 and patriarch feelings. 46:04 Finally, like Jews 46:05 and pre-World War II Eastern Europe, 46:08 gays are blamed for provoking violent attacks 46:10 by making themselves too conspicuous." 46:13 - We're in the eye of the storm a lot, 46:16 I mean queer people generally, 46:18 but sometimes us specifically. 46:23 Sometimes it feels like 46:24 being under a big microscope. 46:29 - Do you remember when we were studying 46:31 theology at university? 46:33 - Yeah, just about. 46:35 - We had this one lecturer 46:38 who taught us about Genesis. 46:40 Remember, he said, 46:43 "You are created. 46:46 You are a creature." 46:47 - Yeah, I do remember that. 46:49 - I didn't like that word 'creature'. 46:51 - No. We belong to us. 46:56 We decide what we do. 47:00 - Well, if God does exist, 47:02 it seems you've got notes! 47:04 [lighthearted chuckling] 47:07 - That's all very interesting, 47:09 but it doesn't explain why 47:11 the anti-gender movement just doesn't listen. 47:15 Remember back at the start 47:17 when we learned about the school board 47:18 who turned down $10,000 of free money? 47:21 Remember how the same misunderstandings 47:23 of Butler's work have circulated for decades? 47:26 Remember the insistence that the law 47:27 must have a strict definition of women? 47:29 Even though we know that's not true. 47:31 Remember all those unevidenced conspiracies 47:33 about the trans deep state, 47:34 and secret UN plots? 47:36 There's something else too 47:38 that's very interesting, 47:41 the language that the anti-gender movement uses, 47:44 is very actiony? 47:48 Threat. Infiltration. 47:50 Danger. Bullying. 47:51 Silencing. Censorship. 47:52 A comparison to nuclear weapons. 47:55 It's not just that they're not listening, 47:57 when they're invited to listen, 47:59 it seems like that makes them feel 48:01 as if they're under attack, 48:03 and Butler has an explanation for this, 48:05 they say that these people are caught 48:08 in a phantasm. 48:11 'Phantasm' is a technical philosophy term 48:14 for a particular way of misinterpreting the world, 48:17 by projecting your feelings onto it. 48:21 Philosopher Michael Naas said that 48:23 it's a prism that refracts, 48:24 an as if 48:26 into an as so. 48:28 For example, the presence of a trans person 48:32 with a penis in a public bathroom, 48:33 makes me feel as if I am under attack becomes, 48:39 [BWWRRRRMMM] 48:41 I am under attack. 48:44 People use phantasms to avoid 48:47 cognitive dissonance in the face of anxiety. 48:50 For example, 48:51 literature professor Darren Tenav 48:53 says we use them to help us confront death! 48:57 Normally, we don't wanna think 48:58 about our own deaths, 48:58 it makes us anxious. 49:00 So, when we picture our own funerals, 49:02 and what we would want to happen to our remains, 49:05 we imagine ourselves as being gone, 49:08 but also kind of still around, 49:10 like, "Oh, I'd love to be buried somewhere 49:12 that has a nice view." 49:15 Well, why? 49:16 You're not gonna be there to enjoy it, 49:17 by definition, 49:18 that's a contradictory dream, 49:20 but the phantasm contains that contradiction, 49:24 and soothes our anxiety, 49:27 it is as if I will still be there... 49:30 [BBWWWRRMMMMMM] 49:32 I will still be there! 49:35 [Alexander Avila] "What is characteristic of phantasms, 49:37 is that they are placed, 49:38 and place what could be the subject of phantasm, 49:42 on both sides of a border, 49:44 a boundary, a limit, 49:46 a frontier. 49:47 When there is a border, 49:48 a limitation, the phantasm let's one 49:51 on the other side, 49:53 and not only provides a contraband access 49:55 through the border, 49:56 but also keeps one on both sides 49:58 at the same time. 49:59 There is no logic of the phantasm, 50:02 the phantasm is phantasm, 50:04 because it allows one to stand 50:06 on both sides of a border, 50:08 for example, 50:09 allowing one to imagine one's own corpse, 50:12 while still being alive." 50:14 - Like he says, 50:15 there's no logic to this, 50:17 it's an exercise in trying to not make sense 50:21 because you can't handle the conclusions 50:22 that you would reach if you did, 50:24 that's why people caught in a phantasm 50:27 will throw out all kinds of claims 50:28 that it doesn't really seem like 50:29 they thought through 50:30 or have any evidence for 50:32 and when questioned on it 50:33 they'll say, 50:34 "You're attacking me!" 50:35 Because they're trying really hard 50:38 to not think something. 50:41 But what, exactly? 50:43 What is the thing 50:44 that the anti-gender movement 50:46 doesn't want to think? 50:48 Well, it'll probably be different 50:51 for different individuals. 50:54 JK Rowling has been massively radicalised 50:57 into the movement in the last few years: 50:58 she's made a lot of very weird 51:00 and false claims about trans people, 51:02 and gotten very aggressive when challenged. 51:05 People have speculated about her trauma 51:07 maybe causing that, 51:08 but as a woman who's also survived 51:11 an abusive relationship, 51:12 that kind of public speculation 51:14 has always felt a little bit gross to me, 51:17 I don't wanna do armchair psychology on anyone, 51:19 even though 51:20 I'm sure plenty of people would love 51:22 to do some on me! 51:23 It's just not the Philosophy Tube way. 51:26 So, maybe we can ask a more general version 51:29 of this same question: 51:31 "Why are phantasms catching on?" 51:34 And not just about this topic 51:35 but all sorts of things. 51:37 On the previous episode, 51:38 we talked about 15-minute 51:39 city conspiracy theories. 51:41 And there's QAnon, 51:42 and conspiracies about the royal family. 51:44 Sometimes the way that Zionists 51:46 talk about Palestinians 51:47 has a touch of the phantasm about it, 51:48 as some Jewish scholars have noted. 51:51 This is a really big issue, 51:53 and it would be great 51:54 if we could sort the whole gender thing out, 51:56 because we've got a lot of real problems 51:58 to do deal with, 51:59 we don't have time to be fighting imaginary ones- 52:02 [bell dinging] 52:04 Ohhh... 52:07 Graff and Korolczuk say 52:09 there really are a lot of problems 52:11 in the world, 52:12 and a lot of them are systemic. 52:15 A lot of women really are devalued, 52:16 a lot of children really are living 52:18 in an increasingly dangerous 52:19 and warming world, 52:21 a lot of people really do rely on their families 52:23 to protect them from big institutions 52:25 and economic forces that really will 52:27 trample every tradition 52:28 and really do dissolve everything into money. 52:31 According to them 52:33 the anti-gender phantasm 52:34 is an attempt to criticise 52:36 the effects of capitalism 52:39 without naming capitalism as the problem. 52:43 People see the bad results 52:44 of the system that we have 52:46 but they're invested in those same systems 52:48 and so the solutions become unthinkable; 52:52 their criticisms have to be expressed 52:53 as a kind of moral criticism. 52:58 Anti-genderism is the socialism of fools, 53:02 and the feminism of fools, 53:04 and the anti-colonialism of fools. 53:07 [Caelan Conrad]] The anti-gender movement 53:08 is so effective in attracting mass support 53:10 because it is structured 53:11 and legitimised as a conservative response 53:13 to the excesses of neoliberalism. 53:16 A crucial source of anxiety 53:18 is the rampant individualism 53:19 of contemporary culture 53:21 the erosion of community 53:22 and growing instability of everyday life. 53:25 Opponents of gender ideology attribute these trends 53:28 to the influence of feminism 53:29 and the sexual revolution. 53:31 Anti-genderism conflates gender 53:33 with those aspects of capitalism 53:35 that are most frustrating to members of the working 53:37 and lower-middle class, 53:38 especially to parents 53:39 and would-be parents: 53:41 precarity and the crisis of care 53:43 resulting from uneven care distribution of wealth. 53:46 Instead of naming the problem in economic terms 53:48 as injustice 53:49 and exploitation 53:51 anti-genderism represents the world 53:53 of capitalisms winners as degenerate 53:55 and morally corrupt. 53:57 - And here's where we tie it all together 54:00 and bring it back to Judith Butler. 54:06 When the anti-gender movement 54:07 said that gender is an ideology 54:09 and sex is a fixed point 54:11 we now understand 54:12 they aren't making an observation; they're making a demand! 54:17 When they say that you can't change sex 54:20 they mean you shouldn't be allowed to! 54:23 Because that would be dangerous, 54:25 not the kind of danger that is proven with evidence 54:28 but the kind they want the state to posit 54:32 and punish. 54:33 What they want is morally righteous violence 54:36 that restores an imaginary order, 54:38 because they are anxious about real problems 54:41 that they cannot 54:42 or will not think about, 54:44 and so they can only glimpse at those problems, 54:47 through the prism of unreality. 54:52 [Lily Alexandre] "The contradictory character 54:54 of the phantasm 54:55 allows it contain whatever anxiety or fear 54:58 that they ant-gender ideology wishes 55:00 to stoke for it's own purposes 55:02 without having to make any of it cohere. 55:04 Depending on the anxieties circulating 55:06 in a particular region 55:07 gender can be figured as Marxist or capitalist, 55:10 tyranny or libertarianism, 55:12 fascism or totalitarianism, 55:14 a totalising force 55:15 or an unwanted migrant. 55:17 It is not that people are unmindful 55:19 of the contradiction 55:20 and need to be enlightened, no. 55:23 The contradiction itself is what works, 55:25 in effect emancipating people 55:26 from the task of developing a rational position." 55:33 - Maybe it's 'cause I'm older, 55:35 but part of the reason I came back 55:37 is to tell you 55:39 life is too short to spend it being miserable. 55:44 - Actually, that's a point: 55:46 how come you look younger than me? 55:49 - 'Cause I'm happier. 55:51 Joy is youthful. 55:54 Also, we get a really good skincare routine. 55:56 - Ah, I don't wanna think about getting older. 55:59 - You know mum's fish pie recipe? 56:03 - Yeah? 56:04 - There's this really amazing moment 56:05 that's gonna happen when you're 30: 56:07 you make that fish pie for a friend 56:09 who's like 23, 56:09 and you bring it out, 56:10 and she says, 56:11 "You are literally my mother." 56:14 And that is gonna be one of the first times 56:15 you realise that we're getting older, 56:18 but it's actually nice, 56:20 'cause it's like, 56:21 we have knowledge that younger people don't, 56:26 and that's not like a superiority thing; 56:28 we get to be helpful. 56:31 We become an aunty! 56:34 We have little nieces 56:36 and a nephew, 56:37 and we help them put on their shoes 56:41 and they ask us to tell them about Shakespeare. 56:48 I wish I could tell you 56:49 that it's all gonna be moments like that, 56:52 but you're right, 56:54 your future has ups and downs. 56:57 It's mainly ups, 56:59 but the politics is a big down. 57:02 Does it get better? 57:09 Let's talk about Brainwyrms. 57:12 Brainwyrms is a 2024 novel by Alison Rumfitt 57:15 about a woman who discovers 57:16 that several high-ranking British politicians 57:18 and journalists are being secretly controlled 57:20 by a contagious parasite 57:21 that makes them bigoted. 57:23 She has to uncover the conspiracy 57:25 but nobody will believe her 57:26 because she's working-class 57:27 and trans 57:29 and maybe imagining it. 57:31 I like that the worms 57:32 are never confirmed to be real. 57:35 We could read them as hallucinations. 57:38 That ambiguity forces us to engage 57:41 only with the metaphor. 57:42 Brainworms might not be real 57:44 but hate is infectious, 57:48 disgusting, and perverse. 57:51 One character is a famous author 57:54 who writes books about teenage witches. 57:59 There's a scene where she infects someone else, 58:02 coming close to her victim, 58:03 worms dripping from her open mouth. 58:05 And she says a line, 58:07 and in the movie version 58:08 this would be the line that reveals 58:10 a glimpse of her evil plan, right? 58:13 But instead she says, 58:15 "I've seen the future of this country, 58:19 and it's going to get so much worse." 58:26 The worms don't make her happy, 58:27 in fact, they're a kind of contagious misery. 58:31 Nobody who is infected 58:33 ever gets better. 58:34 So, what can we do about all of the things 58:38 that we have learned today? 58:39 Well, there's actually two questions 58:41 rolled into one there: 58:42 the first is 58:43 what can we practically do 58:45 about the political situation 58:46 that we're all living in? 58:47 And secondly, 58:48 can we convince people who are stuck 58:50 inside phantasms? 58:53 So, first things first, 58:54 practically speaking, 58:55 what can we do? 58:56 Well, if you've been watching the show 58:58 for any amount of time 58:59 you know that I hate telling people what to do 59:00 or think, but here's some suggestions maybe? 59:06 If you're Catholic 59:07 and you like buying little medals, 59:09 or rosaries or tchotchkes, 59:11 if you have relatives who do, 59:12 maybe older relatives who do, 59:15 you might like to double-check 59:16 where that money is going! 59:18 If you happen to work in media 59:19 then all of this theory could have 59:21 some practical applications for you. 59:23 We might like to talk about anti-genderists 59:25 the same way we talk about anti-vaxxers 59:28 or climate deniers. 59:29 For example, "Mrs X says this, 59:32 which is false." 59:33 "Organisation 'Y' claims this, 59:35 which is pseudoscience." 59:36 Another thing that you might like to try 59:38 is using the word 'cisgender', 59:41 it was coined in the early '90s, 59:43 it means 'not transgender', 59:45 and the English language 59:46 anti-gender movement hate it 59:48 because it implies that trans people, 59:50 and cis people are both worth listening to. 59:55 It resists abjectification 59:57 by putting us on an even playing field, 59:59 kind of like using the word 'straight' 1:00:01 or 'heterosexual' instead of saying 'normal'. 1:00:04 Beyond that, Graff 1:00:05 and Korolczuk say 1:00:06 we need to appreciate the fact 1:00:08 that right-wing populism is criticising capitalism, 1:00:12 albeit in phantasmic terms. 1:00:14 They say 1:00:15 we should move beyond the old idea, 1:00:16 that the left are anti-capitalist, 1:00:18 and the right are always pro-market. 1:00:20 Now some of them are, 1:00:21 to be sure, 1:00:22 but not all. 1:00:23 They say that these days 1:00:24 a lot of people on the right 1:00:25 are actually criticising capitalism, 1:00:27 even if they don't use that kind of language. 1:00:30 And so sticking to the same old 1:00:32 economic policies we've had 1:00:33 for the last 40 years 1:00:34 is leaving yourself wide open 1:00:36 to those far-right extremists. 1:00:39 They also say that LGBTQ stuff 1:00:41 and gender stuff can't really be separated 1:00:43 from "normal politics" anymore, 1:00:46 'cause that's how a lot of people 1:00:47 are engaging with normal politics these days. 1:00:51 The anti-gender phantasm 1:00:52 isn't the only thing powering 1:00:53 the global right to be sure, 1:00:55 but it's big enough that it can't be ignored. 1:00:58 Important lessons there for centrists perhaps. 1:01:01 They recommend a strategy 1:01:03 called 'Populist Feminism', 1:01:05 which involves tapping into 1:01:06 people's emotions in the moment. 1:01:08 An example from the UK 1:01:09 might be the group 'Sisters Uncut', 1:01:12 who've been very successful 1:01:13 mobilising a broad coalition 1:01:15 against austerity, 1:01:17 domestic violence cuts, 1:01:19 police violence, 1:01:20 prisons, healthcare segregation, 1:01:21 arms sales to the Israeli government, 1:01:23 and many other things 1:01:24 because they recognise that all those forces 1:01:27 disproportionately hurt women 1:01:29 and therefore women can be brought together 1:01:32 to protest against them, 1:01:34 if given the chance to express 1:01:36 our feelings of hurt 1:01:38 and righteous anger. 1:01:40 There's many ways to be involved 1:01:41 in a group like that, 1:01:42 from actually taking part in demonstrations 1:01:44 to donating money, 1:01:45 which again 1:01:46 empowers a broad coalition. 1:01:48 A broad coalition, 1:01:49 a coalition of broads! 1:01:51 Dames, dime pieces, 1:01:52 chicks, dolls, 1:01:53 all standing together! 1:01:55 Will it work? 1:01:58 Well, join me at the end of the 21st century 1:02:00 to see humanity's final scores! 1:02:02 And now, our second question: 1:02:05 can we reach people stuck in phantasms? 1:02:08 Is there a cure for brainworms? 1:02:18 Well, to be honest, 1:02:18 as somebody who does a lot of public education, 1:02:21 I really hate to admit this, 1:02:22 but I'm not optimistic that education will work. 1:02:27 Butler says that this movement 1:02:29 is not only irrational 1:02:30 but anti-rational: 1:02:32 many of the most prominent people in it 1:02:33 proudly do not engage 1:02:36 with any of the academic material on gender. 1:02:40 At the end of my research journey I realised 1:02:43 the reason they don't listen 1:02:45 is because they feel that listening 1:02:46 is an act of submission. 1:02:51 And I... 1:02:54 I can't help it, 1:02:55 I think that's really sad. 1:02:57 I really don't wanna come across 1:02:58 as patronising or giving people mercy 1:03:03 that they wouldn't give me, 1:03:04 but I think it is really sad when people 1:03:08 refuse their own complexity, 1:03:10 when they refuse to become 1:03:12 the person that they might become 1:03:14 if they just listened. 1:03:17 Indeed, there could be no greater enemy 1:03:20 for Philosophy Tube 1:03:22 than the anti-gender phantasm: 1:03:23 this show is about compassion 1:03:26 and reason 1:03:27 and sharing knowledge between equals. 1:03:31 It's born out of my belief that thinking 1:03:35 and research 1:03:38 and words 1:03:39 and writing, 1:03:43 that they matter! 1:03:46 And I'm f*****g trans! 1:03:51 This is my final boss-fight. 1:03:55 [Stef Sanjati] "Informed public debate 1:03:57 becomes impossible when some parties 1:03:59 refuse to read the material under dispute, 1:04:02 it is nearly impossible 1:04:03 to breach this epistemic divide 1:04:05 with good arguments 1:04:06 because of the fear that reading 1:04:08 will introduce confusion 1:04:10 into the reader's mind 1:04:11 or bring her into direct contact with the devil. 1:04:15 They're skeptical of the academy 1:04:17 for fear that intellectual debates 1:04:19 may well confuse them about the values they hold. 1:04:23 Their refusal to care much about consistency, 1:04:26 to base their criticisms on a reading of the text, 1:04:29 their way of snatching phrases 1:04:30 and making them into lightning rods, 1:04:32 however, are all finally a refusal 1:04:36 to think critically." 1:04:40 - Some individual people do get better. 1:04:47 When we first come out, 1:04:48 there's gonna be people who do not take it well, 1:04:53 but in time 1:04:54 they see that we are happier 1:04:56 and for most of them 1:04:58 that's enough. 1:05:01 - I'm scared of changing. 1:05:06 No offense! 1:05:09 - Yeah, well you will change, 1:05:13 but you keep the good bits. 1:05:18 - Are you still making 1:05:20 Philosophy Tube in the future? 1:05:22 What did the audience say? 1:05:25 - I brought them with me! 1:05:31 - Oh, hi! 1:05:35 It's nice to see you all! 1:05:39 There's more of them. 1:05:41 - A lot more! 1:05:43 [soft crying] 1:05:51 [thoughtful electronic music by Nina Richards] 1:05:58 - I love you. 1:05:59 - I love you too. 1:06:03 [Nina Richards music intensifies] 1:06:22 - I'd like to end by telling you 1:06:24 my hopes for the future. 1:06:28 I hope that I will grow old. 1:06:31 I hope that when I am old, 1:06:33 I will still be cooking 1:06:34 the way that my mum taught me, 1:06:36 and that I will have the wisdom of my dad. 1:06:40 I hope that my nieces 1:06:41 and my nephew grow up into good 1:06:43 and happy people. 1:06:45 I hope that I will see younger people 1:06:47 have opportunities that I didn't. 1:06:50 And I hope that I won't be too jealous! 1:06:55 I hope that I will be acting 1:06:57 and making art for the rest of my life. 1:07:03 I hope that this is not the cleverest 1:07:06 or the most compassionate that I will ever be, 1:07:09 but that I will continue to change 1:07:12 because the only people who don't change 1:07:17 are the dead. 1:07:24 Speaking of changes! 1:07:27 I've been doing Philosophy Tube 1:07:29 for 11 years now. 1:07:31 Some of you have been here that whole time 1:07:34 and I don't know if you realise it, 1:07:36 but you have changed my life. 1:07:40 Off YouTube 1:07:41 I'm a professional actor. 1:07:43 YouTube kinda blew up first 1:07:45 but it's always been separate 1:07:46 from my acting career, 1:07:48 until I wrote a play called 'The Prince', 1:07:51 which a lot of you came to see 1:07:53 so it did really well. 1:07:55 And then I got cast in Baldur's Gate 3. 1:07:58 And then I got cast in Star Wars. 1:08:01 And then I got cast in something 1:08:03 that's even bigger than Star Wars 1:08:04 that I'm not allowed to tell you about yet! 1:08:07 And the engine of all of this has been you. 1:08:11 I used to think that I would 1:08:12 probably have to leave YouTube behind someday 1:08:14 to focus on acting, 1:08:16 but now I realise that because of you, 1:08:18 and your lovely enthusiasm 1:08:20 for all of the things that I make 1:08:22 and that I'm in, I now realise we can combine YouTube 1:08:27 and acting 1:08:28 into something more powerful 1:08:30 than either one can be alone. 1:08:33 So, then I was like, 1:08:34 "Okay, I wanna write a short film." 1:08:37 And I did, 1:08:38 it's called 'Dracula's Ex-Girlfriend', 1:08:40 it's about two vampire chicks in LA 1:08:42 being horrible to each other. 1:08:44 I pitched it 1:08:44 to a streaming service called 'Nebula', 1:08:47 I said, 1:08:47 "Hey, I've got this big audience, 1:08:49 and we've already had success with my play. 1:08:51 Do you maybe wanna do a movie." 1:08:53 And they said, "Yes." 1:08:55 Once again, you have changed my life! 1:08:58 Do you know how many actors would kill 1:09:00 to have a streaming service 1:09:01 pick up their debut film? 1:09:03 I'm gonna be in it too. 1:09:04 My co-stars are Morgana Ignis 1:09:06 and Brandon Rogers from 'Helluva Boss', 1:09:09 one of the biggest shows in the world. 1:09:11 And you will be able to see the film 1:09:14 when it comes out at 'go.nebula.tv/dex'. 1:09:19 And it gets better, 1:09:21 'cause Nebula isn't just another streaming service. 1:09:24 Imagine you had a role in a show on Disney+, 1:09:26 say... I don't know? 'Star Wars: The Acolyte'? 1:09:29 Well, you'd do the job 1:09:31 and you'd have a great time, 1:09:32 and at the end of the day 1:09:33 you go home: 1:09:34 Star Wars belongs to Disney. 1:09:37 But on Nebula 1:09:38 the people who create the thing 1:09:40 own the thing. 1:09:42 I wrote 'Dracula's Ex-Girlfriend', 1:09:44 so I keep the rights. 1:09:45 They're giving the creators more power. 1:09:48 And even better 1:09:50 if you all go 1:09:51 and get Disney+ to watch Star Wars, 1:09:52 then that's really cool 1:09:53 but the creators of the show 1:09:54 don't get like a bonus or anything. 1:09:56 However, if you get Nebula 1:09:58 using that link specifically 1:10:00 then I get a cut, 1:10:02 and you get a discount: 1:10:04 $2.50 a month with an annual subscription. 1:10:08 So I help you, 1:10:09 you're helping me, 1:10:10 we are helping each other. 1:10:13 And there's even more! 1:10:14 If you wanna see the full scene 1:10:16 that we shot for this episode, 1:10:17 without all the video essay bits in between? 1:10:19 That's on Nebula too. 1:10:21 Every episode of Philosophy Tube 1:10:22 goes up there early 1:10:23 and uncensored. 1:10:25 Lindsay Ellis is on there, 1:10:26 LegalEagle's on there, 1:10:28 Hbomberguy's on there, 1:10:29 they're making a whole bunch of documentaries now. 1:10:31 They're making a sci-fi movie 1:10:32 directed by Jessie Gender 1:10:34 that I'm gonna be in, 1:10:35 it's called 'Identiteaze', 1:10:36 it comes out in June. 1:10:37 If you get Nebula 1:10:38 you can see all of that: 1:10:40 we are combining YouTube 1:10:43 and acting 1:10:43 and we are unlocking the power. 1:10:46 You and I have had a lot of fun 1:10:48 over these last 11 years, 1:10:50 the next step is 'Dracula's Ex-Girlfriend', 1:10:53 and after that? 1:10:57 Wait and see! 1:10:59 [Cool as hell synth music] 1:11:15 [So proud of this one, it came together really well] 1:11:30 [My original plan for this one was to interview Butler, and I was chatting to their publicist about it, but it didn't work out in the end] 1:11:50 [So I decided to take a creative risk, push the boat out a little. Don't wanna get complacent with YouTube, y'know?] 1:12:06 [How good was Rhys though? Love working with him, such a lovely guy] 1:12:23 [Speaking of acting - StarWars! Finally I can talk about it! I'll talk about it more on livestream when the show comes out of course] 1:12:41 [I mean, I have a very small role in it. I can't wait to announce the bigger thing though haha] 1:12:59 [I'm glad we've got DEX too: the acting industry is in a really bad place right now, I'm lucky to have something to be working on] 1:13:15 [The editing for this one was fun too: editing drama is a different skill set, so that was a cool challenge] 1:13:33 [ANYWAY now that this episode is finally done I can go and enjoy my birthday party tonight lol] 1:13:51 [It's convenient that I held it on the same night as Eurovision, so all the people joining in the boycott have something else to do lol] 1:14:07 [By the way, if you are so inclined do sign up to the Patreon. It's been lagging a bit, just cause of the recession generally. So y'know, if you have the spare cash. But not if you don't; I'll be okay] 1:14:25 [Oh by the way, the full scene with Rhys and the blooper reel are both on Nebula!] 1:14:50 [Brian Conway] You can moonwalk, another talent? 1:14:53 [Abi] Apparently! 1:14:56 [Mr. X] Pretty good! That's it, that's the end of the video. 1:14:59 [Mr. X laughing] 1:15:06 I'm just kidding, all right. ]==] -- ____ _ _ ____ _ -- | __ ) _ _| |_| | ___ _ __/ ___| _ _| |__ -- | _ \| | | | __| |/ _ \ '__\___ \| | | | '_ \ -- | |_) | |_| | |_| | __/ | ___) | |_| | |_) | -- |____/ \__,_|\__|_|\___|_| |____/ \__,_|_.__/ -- -- «ButlerSub» (to ".ButlerSub") ButlerSub = Class { type = "ButlerSub", from0 = function (line0) return ButlerSub {line0=line0} end, from = function (line0) return ButlerSub.from0(line0):split() end, __tostring = function (bs) return bs:totext() end, __index = { totext = function (bs) local a,b = (bs.a or ""),bs.b return format("%8s %s", a, b) end, split = function (bs) local a,b = bs.line0:match("^([0-9:]+) (.*)") if a then bs[0],bs.a,bs.b = "ab",a,b; return bs end local b = bs.line0:match("^ +(.*)") if b then bs[0],bs.b = "b",b; return bs end print("Error: " .. bs.line0) end, -- -- (find-angg "LUA/Subtitles2.lua") -- (find-angg "LUA/Subtitles2.lua" "youtube_make_url") -- (find-blogme3 "defs-2022.lua" "Table-Row-Cell") hash = "QVilpxowsUQ", url = function (bs) return youtube_make_url(bs.hash, bs.a) end, link = function (bs) return NAMEHREF(bs.a, bs:url(), bs.a) end, link = function (bs) return NAME(bs.a,"")..HREF(bs:url(), bs.a) end, cell = function (bs,body) return format("<td>%s</td>", body) end, cellr = function (bs,body) local fmt = '<td style="display:flex; justify-content:flex-end;">%s</td>' return format(fmt, body) end, emptycell = function (bs) return '<td></td>' end, row00 = function (bs,body) return format("<tr>%s</tr>", body) end, row0 = function (bs) if bs[0]=="ab" then return bs:cellr(bs:link()).." "..bs:cell(bs.b) end if bs[0]=="b" then return bs:emptycell().." "..bs:cell(bs.b) end print("Error:", bs) error() end, row = function (bs) return bs:row00(bs:row0()) end, }, } -- «ButlerSub-tests» (to ".ButlerSub-tests") --[==[ * (eepitch-lua51) * (eepitch-kill) * (eepitch-lua51) dofile "2024-philosophy-tube-butler.lua" b_ab = ButlerSub.from "1:14:53 [Abi] Apparently!" b_b = ButlerSub.from " bunch of documentaries now." = b_ab = b_b loadblogme3() -- (find-angg "LUA/lua50init.lua" "loadblogme3") require "defs-2022" -- (find-blogme3 "defs-2022.lua") -- (find-blogme3 "defs-2022.lua" "Table-Row-Cell") = b_ab:link() = b_ab:row0() = b_ab:row() --]==] -- ____ _ _ ____ _ -- | __ ) _ _| |_| | ___ _ __/ ___| _ _| |__ ___ -- | _ \| | | | __| |/ _ \ '__\___ \| | | | '_ \/ __| -- | |_) | |_| | |_| | __/ | ___) | |_| | |_) \__ \ -- |____/ \__,_|\__|_|\___|_| |____/ \__,_|_.__/|___/ -- -- «ButlerSubs» (to ".ButlerSubs") ButlerSubs = Class { type = "ButlerSubs", from = function (bigstr) local B = ButlerSubs {} for _,li in ipairs(splitlines(bigstr)) do table.insert(B, ButlerSub.from(li)) end return B end, __tostring = function (bss) return bss:totext() end, __index = { totext = function (bss) local f = function (bs) return bs:totext() end return mapconcat(f, bss, "\n") end, rows = function (bss) local f = function (bs) return bs:row() end return mapconcat(f, bss, "\n") end, tohtml = function (bss) return Table(bss:rows()) end, }, } -- «ButlerSubs-tests» (to ".ButlerSubs-tests") --[==[ * (eepitch-lua51) * (eepitch-kill) * (eepitch-lua51) dofile "2024-philosophy-tube-butler.lua" bss = ButlerSubs.from [=[ 0:38 and now they have a new book about the backlash. ]=] = bss[1] = bss[2] = bss loadblogme3() -- (find-angg "LUA/lua50init.lua" "loadblogme3") require "defs-2022" -- (find-blogme3 "defs-2022.lua") -- (find-blogme3 "defs-2022.lua" "Table-Row-Cell") = bss:rows() = bss:tohtml() = ButlerSubs.from(butlersubs_bigstr) = ButlerSubs.from(butlersubs_bigstr):tohtml() --]==] -- Local Variables: -- coding: utf-8-unix -- End: